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Coupon Eligible Converter Box (CECB)/DTV converter comparison

Introduction

In the United States, effective 2009-02-17, most television stations are required by law to cease transmitting analog TV (NTSC) signals and transmit only digital TV (DTV or ATSC) signals. This allows the spectrum currently wasted by simultaneous analog and digital transmissions to be reclaimed. Some low power stations may continue tohttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?page=2&cat=1427&keywords=ATSC%20tuner&sort=Weight%20desc broadcast analog signals. Some stations will not wait until the 2009 deadline to switch. Newer stations are already limited in their ability to simultaneously transmit digital and analog signals and thus have trouble competing with other stations which are allowed full HDTV broadcasts and may switch over to digital only transmission sooner. For example, Charlottesville, VA had only NBC and PBS until a new broadcaster added ABC, CBS, and FOX; they have announced their intention to switch over before the deadline. Analog TVs will require a converter box to receive over-the-air television broadcasts after the switchover. Cable subscribers will usually not need one. Satellite subscribers will not need one if they receive their local stations via satellite instead of via an antenna. At least until 2012?

In order to ease the transition, the government is subsidizing the cost of converter boxes in the form of up to two $40 coupons per eligible household, with a limited total number of coupons. They began taking applications online on 2008-01-01. Apply today, using the link below, if you haven't already in case they run out. The budget should allow for about 37 million coupons but there are reportedly 70 million sets in use. More specifically, there are 22.25 million coupons which will be followed by 11.25 million which are restricted to homes with no satellite or cable. As of June 2008, over 15 million coupons had been ordered, almost 14 million mailed, and only 2.3 million redeemed, and the wer going at a rate of 100,000 coupons a day, thus the unrestricted batch of 22 million will be exhausted about Aug 2008 and the remaining restricted ones a few months after that. . In order to limit the subsidy to broadcast TV recipients, they have imposed some serious constraints on what the converter boxes can do. In an attempt to make the coupon eligible converter boxes unusable for HDTV upgrades, they have imposed constraints that may interfere with even broadcast TV use and have adverse affects on consumers and the environment. Coupon Eligible converter boxes will not have features you would expect on a fully functional standalone HDTV/DTV tuner box.

A converter box will not upgrade your TV to HDTV. You will be able to receive SDTV, EDTV, and HDTV broadcasts but they will all be displayed in standard definition (the resolution of old analog TVs), down converting where necessary. The display quality will not be as good as a low end SDTV digital TV, which while it may have the same resolution as an analog TV looks better because it can use progressive scan instead of interlacing. You will get a few additional benefits including an on screen program guide and the ability to receive additional subchannels. A TV station can divide its bandwidth among several subchannels, broadcasting up to one HDTV program plus lower resolution programs. However, these benefits will be offset by the inability to record programs and watch them at the same time without a second box. Another problem with recording is that your VCR or DVD recorder will probably be incapable of changing channels on the converter box making programmed recording difficult. Even recorders which have an IR sender for changing cable box channels probably won't know the right codes to send for converter boxes. TiVo may upgrade their software to do this. Some DVD recorders can accept software updates on DVD, but you will have to order the updates or download and burn them in the unlikely event that they are available.

With the desire to limit the coupon eligible converters to use with existing sets and following the self-serving advice of HDTV tuner manufacturers, many owners of high end analog TVs were left high and dry. If you have an analog TV with RGV, component (YUV), or VGA inputs or purchased a computer monitor with an analog TV tuner, presently use a TV tuner for a video monitors, you will be limited not only to SDTV resolution but also to composite video. Since CECBs are limited to SDTV resolution, there was absolutely no reason to limit the output to RF and composite. Further, some of these sets are capable of more than SDTV resolution since they double as computer monitors. Thus, these users will need more expensive ($180+) HDTV tuners to take advantage of their existing displays.

You may need to upgrade your antenna to receive digital broadcasts. Visit AntennaWeb for more information.

One would hope that some manufacturers will design coupon eligible converter boxes as subsets of a more flexible design, with optional components omitted to meet coupon eligibility requirements. Many households may require more converter boxes than they are allowed coupons for and they should have the option of paying a little more for a more flexible box, still benefiting from the economy of scale of the converter boxes.

You will generally need one converter box for each analog TV used to receive over-the-air broadcasts. In addition, you may need additional devices for VCRs, DVD recorders, and DVRs (TiVo, etc) to permit recording a show at the same time you are watching one, but these devices may not be capable of instructing the converter to change channels. Once you install a second converter, however, you are likely to encounter a fatal design flaw: the lack of unit codes on the remote to enable you to use either a single remote or two separate remotes to control the converter boxes individually. Thus, you will probably have to purchase, and learn how to use, two separate brands of converter box or resort to kludges like covering the remote control receivers to select the device you want to control.

Converter boxes will add to system complexity and user confusion.

Most coupon eligible converter box purchase will probably occur around the second quarter of 2008. The government won't ship the coupons till manufacturers are ready to ship the products and consumers will have 90 days from then to use the coupons. Anyone who didn't apply for a coupon by then, probably won't get one as the supply is limited.

Common Features/Flaws

Comparison table

Not responsible for errors. Use this table for initial evaluation but be sure to check manufacturers specs to confirm details. If it a feature isn't advertised it is assumed to be absent. Compiling this table is difficult as only sketchy information, if that, is available for most of the products. Some of the companies are so nebulous they don't even seem to have a web site. Much of this info was collected before units hit stores. Even after they are in stores, the online documentation for them is shamefully poor. This table was originally prepared before any of the products hit the market using what I could glean from articles, pictures, and the rare user manual and before other comparison tables were published by others.

This table lists only those features which are not required. That includes accessories. For example, one vendor lists a remote control, A/V cable, RF cable, User manual, quick start guide, and battery for the remote. The government requires the RF cable, remote control and battery, and user manual so only the A/V cable is listed as an accessory.

Shrinking the page (Control '-' in firefox), enlarging your browser window, or printing at a reduced size will let you see more of the table at one time.

Units in big box stores

Brand

Model

CECB

Pass

thru

S-

Video

Smart

Ant.

SAP

Power

Programable

Remote

Software

Updates

Supplied

Accessories

Menu

Languages

Front

Panel

Buttons

DTVCC

EIA-708

Other

Retailers

Reviews, Manuals, Videos, etc.

Brand

Zenith

Insignia

(LG owns both)

DTT900

NS-DXA1

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

Energy Star

<1W/<8W

AC only


Universal

No

A/V cable

RF push on cable (Insignia)

English

Spanish

French

Power

CH+?

CH-?

yes

EPG (now/next), zoom, letterbox, sleep, signal meter (with audio), SAP, close caption, recall

Circuit City (Zenith) $60

Radio Shack (Zenith) $60

Best Buy (insignia) $60

[hdtvexpert] [EPG pics] [DTT900 Manual] [DTT900 Video Review] [DTT900 video] [NS-DXA1 CC video] [NS-DXA1 manual]

Zenith (LG)

Insignia

Zenith

Insignia

(LG owns both)

DTT901

NS-DXA1-APT??

Yes

YES

No

No

Yes

Energy Star

<1W/<8W

AC only


Universal

No

A/V cable

RF push on cable (Insignia)

English

Spanish

French

Power

CH+?

CH-?

yes

EPG (now/next), zoom, letterbox, sleep, signal meter (with audio), SAP, close caption, recall

Circuit City (Zenith) $60

[FCC]

Zenith (LG)

Insignia

Magnavox

Philco

Sylvania

(Funai)

TB100MW9

TB100HH9

TB100MG9

Yes

No on MW9

Yes but clunky on HH9, MG9

No

No

Yes

120VAC

1W/8W

No

No


English

Spanish

French

No power or channel buttons

yes


Walmart (Magnavox) $55 (East?)

Kmart (philco)

Sears (sylvania magnavox)

Sams $44 (magnavox)


[EPG pics] [TV100MW9 review] [TB100MW9 Channel Change Video] [TB100MW9 manual] [TB100HH9 manual] [TB100MG9 manual]

Magnavox

Philco

Sylvania

Funai

RCA

DTA800

(three models with significant differences.A is zoran based, B is broadcom, and B1 adds passthru but suffix is usually omitted.)

Yes

DTA-800B1 only



Yes







Power

CH+

CH-

yes

Can't manually add channels

Listed on Walmart website for $50 but not sold in stores or online. (West?)

[hdtvexpert] [EPG pics] [video demo]

[manual]

RCA

GE/Jasco (plastic)

Goodmind(metal)

22730

DTA900???

Yes

No

No

Yes

(GE antenna only?)








yes

Full Program Guide, goofy enclosure

Target $55

[hdtvexpert] [EPG pics] [CNET 22730 review]

GE/Jasco (plastic)

Goodmind(metal)

VENTURER

(unusable web site)

Winegard

STB7766G

RC-DT09?

Yes

No

No

No







Power

CH+

CH-

?

EPG: Current program only?


Target $50

[EPG pics] [internal pics]

VENTURER

(unusable web site)

DigitalSTREAM

DTX9900

Yes













RadioShack

($60)

[EPG pics] [DTX9900 chan change video] [DTX9900 EPG Video]

[DTX9900 Setup Video] [DTX9900 Menu video]

[review] manual

DigitalSTREAM

DigitalSTREAM

DTX9950

Yes

YES

No

Yes???




RS-232

RF Cable

AAA batteries





RadioShack ship-to-store ($60)

[AVS]

DigitalSTREAM

Brand

Model

CECB

Pass

thru

S-

Video

Smart

Ant.

SAP

Power

Programable

Remote

Software

Updates

Supplied

Accessories

Menu

Languages

Front

Panel

Buttons

DTVCC

EIA-708

Other

Retailers

Reviews, Manuals, Videos, etc.

Brand



Others

Brand

Model

CECB

Pass

thru

S-

Video

Smart

Ant.

SAP

Power

Programable

Remote

Software

Updates

Supplied

Accessories

Menu

Languages

Front

Panel

Buttons

DTVCC

EIA-708

Other

Retailers

Channel Master

MAG

AVION

CM-7000

CCB7707??

ATB7707???

Yes


Yes

No


120VAC

8W/2W





Power

CH+

CH-

12 hour program guide

Online $80

[review] [EPG pics] [review] [CM-7000 manual] [MAG CCB7707 Manual] [ATB7707 manual]

ECHOSTAR

TR-40

Yes












June 16th

SolidSignal: $52

[engadget] [EPG pics]

ECHOSTAR

TR-50

NO

DVR











DVR,Component output, ethernet, USB


[engadget]

APEX

DT250

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes






multiple


3-Day program guide, DigitalCC, Volume control

August

[manual]

AMTC

Alpha Digital

RJTECH

Tivax

Mustek

AccessHD

AccessHD

AT-2016

AT-2016

RJ-900ATSC

STB-T9

MAT-K50

DTA1010D??

DTA1010U??

Yes


No

Yes




RS-232



Power

CH+

CH-



[EPG pics] [STB-T9 manual]

[STB-T9 review]

[AMTC manual]

APEX

DT1001

Yes














Sansonic

FT300A

Yes


No

No


Wall Wart

Energy Star?


No

A/V Cable


Power




Sansonic

FT300RT

Yes














Philco

TB100HH9

Yes














MicroGEM

MG2000

Yes





DC input

Wall wart?





Power

Ch+

Ch-



[manual] [review]

MaxMedia

MMDTVB03

Yes










Power

Ch+

Ch-




















































Goodmind

GE

DTA1000

22729

Yes



yes










[DTA1000 manual]

CASTi

CAX-01

Yes













[EPG pics]

















AccessHD

DTA1010D

Yes














AccessHD

DTA1010U

Yes














Lasonic

LTA-260

Yes














Lasonic

LTR-260

Yes














Artec

T3A

Yes



No


12V Dcd 4W max

AC wall wart




Multi language

Power switch (poorly located on top)

“Service port”

Freeze frame


[EPG pics]

Micro Prose

MPI-500

Yes?



YEs





A/V cable

3 languages





Daewoo

DAC-100















DigitalSTREAM

D2A1D10

Yes


Yes


Yes?

9VDC









DigitalSTREAM

D2A1D20

Yes














DigitalSTREAM

SX300

??


Yes













HDTV Tuners (High Def, not CECB)

Brand

Model

CECB

Pass

thru

S-Video

Smart

Antenna

Secondary

Audio

Power

Programmable

Remote

Software

Updates

Supplied

Accessories

Menu

Languages

Front

Panel

Buttons

Other

Retailers

Reviews, etc.

Sylvania

6900DTE

NO

HDTV


Yes

Yes







Power

CH+

CH-


High def,

DVI-D/HDCP,

S-video, Component out, digital audio

$90 used ebay


Samsung

DTB-H260F

NO

HDTV


Yes

No







Power

HDMI, s-video, component, composite, USB (maintenance), NO RGB

Typically around$169, can be found for $80.


Samsung

SIR-T451

NO

HDTV











DVI, RGB, component



Samsung

SIR-T150

(discontinued)

NO

HDTV


Yes









RGB/VGA, composite, component, S-video, digital audio

NO HDMI/DVI



Tivax

LX1000

NO

HDTV


yes

Yes








HDMI, compnent, composite, s-video

$90 new


[AVS review /forum]



Note: sansonic has two products listed with government but only one datasheet which does not specifically identify a model number, so features were attributed to the FT300A.

Rumor has it that Walmart is carrying the RCA model in the west and the Magnovox in the East.

This table doesn't list johnny come lately models.

Other Comparisons

There is a comparison table with many more models at Wikipedia

holl_ands on avsforum has done extensive work on comparing boxes. CECB Feature List (avsforum registration required). zipfile link has been setup by someone and is updated to point to the latest version when holl_ands posts a new one.

Quick Answer

Many readers are no doubt hoping for a quick answer, a list of boxes that is very likely to satisfy their needs. Unfortunately, that list has zero members. Even within the constraints imposed on these boxes, there is not a single box on the market that will satisfy the needs of all users. I don't even think there is a single box that will perform well regardless of your A/V setup. You wan't to know which is the best? Try asking which is the least crappy instead. And unfortunately, the answer to that depends on your particular system requirements.

If you have a standalone TV with no other attached devices such as VCR, DVD recorder, DVR, cable/satellite box, DVD player, or video games, don't use secondary audio or closed captioning, and don't expect digital TV features like a halfway decent electronic program guide and don't even expect the picture quality you would get on a standard definition digital TV, and have good TV reception, don't use it in emergencies, don't need stereo audio on a TV with no external A/V input, don't need to re-aim your antenna to get different channels, don't have a TV with progressive scan, don't need to receive any analog channels unless you have spare A/V inputs on your TV or VCR, and don't expect any of this to change between now and when you upgrade to a digital TV and can live without firmware upgrades (bug fixes) and aren't concerned aout whether the box will last as long as your TV does, then any of the converter boxes available will probably work for you. If these conditions are not true for you, then some or all of the converter boxes on the market may prove inadequate or marginal. If your have a spare A/V input on your TV or video recorder, then your chances of living with a bare bones unit are a bit better.

If your VCR blinks 12:00 because you don't set it, you are confused by TV/VCR switches, are confused by the difference between changing channels on a TV vs changing them on a VCR, don't know which remote to use, etc. then the added confusion from having adding another box may be an issue for you.

Reasonable expectations include:

If you record one show on your VCR/DVD-R while watching another you will require two converter boxes and you may encounter cabling problems unless your TV has three inputs (one for a converter box, one for the VCR, and one for DVD player). If you make unattended recordings, you a pretty much screwed unless your VCR (or similar device) has an IR blaster for controlling cable boxes. Only one box (TR-40) has even been announced that claims to offer a timer recording mode that will automatically turn the device on and select the appropriate channel at a preprogrammed time; even with this box, it is not clear how many programs are supported and you will need to program both the box and the VCR.

Many consumers will purchase a box and it will appear to work ok at first and then find out they are screwed when they decide they want to make an unattended recording, add a DVD player, etc.

To minimize consumer confusion, the government should have defined minimum standards for two levels of box:

Manufacturers could produce boxes in between but retailers would carry at least one box that meets the adequate box specifications that would work in 99% of typical system setups without the need for additional hardware (except maybe a few cables) since it can daisy chain and provides all capabilities except simultaneous recording or picture in picture which require a second or third box.

And, quite frankly, they should have been honest and made the coupon worth $60-70 and allowed many more per household. Because that is what it is really going to cost consumers. They are getting money ($20 billion?) from auctioning off the airwaves and that money really belongs to the consumers who are affected, not the government. A typical household with 4 people, three bedrooms, a kitchen, a living room, and a rec room, 2 VCRs, and one TV with PiP may require 9 converter boxes.

The most interesting units ship to (online) stores/online retailers after the first coupons expire. Those are the apex DT250 and the Echostar DTVPal TR-40. The DT250 would be a good companion for the TV and the TR-40 a good companion for your VCR/DVR/DVD recorder.

The Zenith ZTT900 or the Insignia DXA1 (reportedly the same unit, LG owns zenith) looks like the most available model at local big box retailers, but don't get one manufactured before April to avoid the left channel audio bug. No analog passthrough, though there is a DTT901 model that isn't available locally that does. No s-video, no analog pass thru, and no smart antenna input. And a rather limited now/next program guide. But it seems to be about the best you are going to get in a stripped down model at local retailers. All the units at the big box retailers look like stripped down minimalist models. You should be able to walk into those stores and have a choice of a value model or a performance model for $20 more that has ALL the features allowed by law. But you can't get a single box that supports all the legal features, period.

The Tivax STB-T9 (online) and similar units ar notable for having an RS-232 port but this is only used for software upgrades, it won't work with your TiVO or other device to change channels (actually, it will if you have a device you can program). Schematics can be downloaded from their FCC filings (see below). From their shitty website, Tivax doesn't exactly look the kind of company you could rely on to actually provide updates.

The APEX DT250 has svideo, analog pass through, smart antenna, and a 3 day program guide but won't be available until after the first coupons expire.

The DISH network DTVPPal, has analog passthrough, full program guide, and a timer mode for unattended recording but won't be available until the first coupons expire.

Choose your box carefully – if you don't like it, you might have trouble getting a refund; if the reception isn't good, you are stuck. However, I have heard of people getting credit back on their coupons returning a box so the government FAQ may have made it seem worse than it actually was. But even then when I asked a Radio Shack person about returns or exchanges she said you lose the $40. Given that there are no refunds and even if the retailer let you exchange it they often don't have another model, and the “local” stores are chains, there may be little advantage to buying local other than shipping cost. On the other hand, the models that might really be worth ordering online aren't available before many coupons expire. And those that offer more than the bare minimum offer so little more than the bare minimum that they are hardly worth the extra trouble and/or expense to get them.

Reception Quality

Microtune, a US maker of tuner modules, has sent a letter to the NTIA alleging that some CECB's not incorporating their tuners failed to meet minimum reception standards; they didn't name the manufacturer, but it was deduced on avsforum that the unit in question was the magnavox/philco/funai model. dtvboxanswers ranks some boxes reception quality good/ok/low. Most of what I have read concerning the Zenith/LG units reception is good. One reviewer writes “the Zenith is based on LG’s ATSC digital tuner chipset, which is known for its superior reception capabilities over most other silicon.” Some Zenith/LG's manufactured before april seem to have an audio problem that shows up on some TV sets. Radioshack has a few extra models online that you can have shipped to the local store but a few online sources seem to indicate that they have poorer reception quality though hdtvexperts used an attenuator and reported not much difference. Dtvboxanswers lists the GE units as having only “OK” reception and some have reported being able to get channels with the Zenith that they couldn't with the Digital Stream. It is possible that which unit performs best depends on which channel and the types of multipath interference. And some models use one of two different tuner modules so performance could vary based on which you get.

There are a number of different types of tuner performance that could affect your results. Weak signal sensitivity, adjacent channel rejection, multipath interference rejection, and receiver desensitization due to strong channels. Thus while one box may work better for someone, your results could be opposite. Use TV Fool or antenna web to see where your signals are coming for and a rough estimate of their absolute and relative strengths. Antennaweb is thought to underpredict reception.

Some people get the same channels after switching boxes, some get more channels, some get fewer, and some might get about the same number but different channels. As an example of how wide the range is, one person went from 26 channels to 9 while another went from 4-1/2 channels to 12 with 11 having better quality than the best analog. You get the digital subchannels as well as the main channels, too. A study of channels before and after can be found at TV Fool .

Note that if you have trees, hills, or buildings between you and the transmitter, try aiming your antenna at the tops of these obstructions rather than horizontal or where you think the tower is (I.e. Tower lights that you can see from just the right angle). The signal diffracts around the edges of the obstruction.

All units are required to have some level of signal quality display. Some will show you more than one metric and/or give you an audio indication. Both enhancements are helpful for antenna aiming. The beep, possibly extended using a cordless phone, is helpful if you have to go outside to adjust your antenna. Also, some show colors (red, yellow, green) though not necessarily in a meaningful way. Red chould mean “I can't decode the signal now without errors”, yellow “I can decode the signal now without erors but my margin of error is less than the statistical variation in signal levels, and green means signal good even with statistical variation in signal. Another interptetation would be Red: can't display a picture at all, yellow can display a picture with deterioration, and green no errors.

Do not compare signal strength meter readings from one box to another; they are generally not calibrated in real world units.

Reportedly, all the CECBs have to meet tougher specs than have been required of any older digital TVs, set top boxes, etc.

An article (puff piece) on silicon tuners.

Electronic Program Guide

One of the areas the units differ a lot is the quality of the electronic program guide. Some will only show you the current program on the channel you are watching. Some will show you now/next on all channels. Some will show you a limited number of hours of program guide information on one (current) or all channels. Stations are required to send a minimum of 12 hours of program guide via PSIP and can send up to 16 days. One station engineer reports that he only sends 48 hours and that is the case for many others and most recivers don't have enough memory for 7 days. In addition, gemstar TV guide on screen data for all channels may be sent over one local station (usually PBS or CBS); the Echostar TR-40 unit is supposed to be able to use this info. The PSIP data is only available for the current channel unless the receiver remembers data from other channels you have visited. There is some indication that boxes that try to handle more than now/next exhibit some problems with crashing.

If you have a TV set, DVD recorder, PVR/DVR, or other unit which has puilt in TVGOS guide data that was transmitted via NTSC, it will no longer work after the switchover or after you install your converter box.

I would imagine that channels broadcast now/next (or rather, the current three hour block) fairly often and program data further out takes longer and A/69 standard confirms this. Program information is stored in 3 hour blocks in the Event Information Table (EIT) with up to 128 EIT blocks (16 days). A/69 says that EIT-0 (current 3 hour block) has to be sent twice a second, EIT-1 (next 3 hour block) once every three seconds, and EIT-2 and EIT-3 once a minute. EIT-4 and up suggested once every minute. Start times for EITSs are 0:00, 3:00, 6:00, 9:00, 12:00, 15:00, 18:00, and 21:00 UTC; in other words, they don't advance every hour or half hour.

Thus, if I was transmit EIT blocks every quarter second, I could transmit the minimum recommend 72 hours of programming information (EIT-0 ... EIT-16), meeting the recommend and required timing by repeating every 14 seconds like this where a two digit number gives the EIT block number:

00 01 00 02 | 00 03 00 04 | 00 05 00 06 |
00 01 00 07 | 00 08 00 09 | 00 10 00 11 |
00 01 00 12 | 00 13 00 14 | 00 15 00 16 |
00 01 00 17 | 00 18 00 19 | 00 20 00 21 |
00 01 00 22 | 00 23 00 xx |

If I was transmitting 16 days, this would take 128 seconds so I would have to transmit EIT blocks faster to meet the 1 minute suggested repetition rate. It is recommend that at least 72 hours (24 blocks) be sent.   Stations may only update the EIT blocks once per 24 hours so 1/3 of the blocks may be stale, thus sending 72 hours may only show you 48 hours in advance. If I extend this cycle at the same data rate, I get about 8 days (7 usable) sent once a minute.

Memory requirements: Each block is 970 bytes, call it 1K with overhead. 128K bytes for 16 days per virtual channel. Thus 50 channels with 4 subchannels each would be 25.6MB which is why many boxes won't store a full program guide. Since EIT blocks may not slide, to get now/next information could take 3 seconds. If one block covers 3-6PM and one covers 6-9PM, then at 5:50PM, you need EIT-0 and EIT-1 to get now/next information.

It is assumed in A/74 that the receiver will scan channels each time it is turned off.  If you don't turn your box off, it can't scan for program guide information since it has no way of knowing if you are actively watching which prevents it from changing channels. Assuming your box has at least 48 hours worth of EPG memory, that you turn your box off at least one hour per day, and stations meet the minimum recommendations, you should have 24-48 hours of EPG information available at any given time. If your box has less memory, time to retrieve program information for the current channel would be:
now: 0.5 seconds
next: 3 seconds
next 3 hours: 0.5 to 3 seconds, depending on time of day and hour in question
next 12 hours: 1 minute
next 16 days (to extent available): 1 minute
If you have two dozen physical channels, it will take your box 24 minutes to scan all the channels to get program guide info when you turn it off. Assuming the box takes 1 second to acquire a channel and 3 seconds to get EIT-0 and EIT-1 on each channel, the box could first spend 96 seconds grabbing the next 3-6 hours and 45 seconds scanning for new physical channels and added/deleted virtual channels on the other physical channels before it tries to acquire the rest of the program guide info.

If you don't turn the box off each day but channel surf spending at least one minute on each channel, the box should be able to grab the data, if it is smart enough to grab it on the fly.


The CECB Feature list and wiki are a bit vague about the EPG features (memory, when it is obtained, and how it is presented):

Testing Caption Memory Handling

I will illustrate with a hypothetical test of a Zenith style now/next converter box in a particular location.

The idea would be to unplug the unit (not merely turn off) for a few days (as many as it appears to have data) to deplete the memory so you can see when it gets populated. Note that if box doesn't have flash or a battery backup, unplugging for 10 seconds may suffice.

Then carefully experiment with the unit. If a DVR or VCR is available, set it to record output of box while experimenting. Suppose we have the following channels (zipcode 22903):

16-1, 19-1, 19-2, 27-1, 27-2, 29-1, 29-2, 29-3, 41-1, 41-2, 41-3.

Now, we should really look up on TVfool which physical channels are which since we have one company broadcasting three different networks but it turns out they are using separate frequencies. I will assume a now/next zenith type box that lets you scroll through channels without actually tuning to another channel but may tell you there is no data. I am guessing, here based on the unit doing the best that it can, storing EIT-0 and EIT-1 only for each channel. I.E. it is storing a little more info than it shows. Do not change channels except when part of the experiment to avoid acquiring extra data. Also, an unexpected result at any stage of this test could affect the assumptions in following tests; you need to know enough to adapt.

  1. Set channel to channel 16-1.

  2. Unplug unit to deplete memory

  3. Plug unit back in and immediately turn on

  4. Hope we are still on 16-1

  5. pull up program guide. Scroll through channels without tuning. Should see program listings for 16-1 only. If we have program data, this may be an indication of flash/battery backup (either of which is good but could wear out). Rest assumes we only saw 16-1. Exit program guide.

  6. CH+ to 19-1,

  7. pull up program guide. Scroll through channels without tuning. We expect to see listings for 19-1. We should see 19-2, and 19.3; if not, we have a bug (failure to store other virtual channels on same physical channel. We should also see listings for 16-1, if not we have a bug (failure to remember other physical channels). We will not see listings for 27-*, 29-*, and 41-*. If we do, the unit a second tuner for guide data (not likely), is telepathic, or we screwed up.

  8. Turn unit off for 3 minutes (but keep plugged in), then turn back on and pull up program guide. (Are we still on 19-1? This tells us if we have last channel memory as long as power is applied.)

  9. We should see now/next guide data for all channels. If not, we have a bug (failure to scan channel data when first turned off).

  10. Stay tuned to 19-1, for just over 1 hour (assume programs are less than 1 hour) with the box on so it can't scan.

  11. Pull up program guide and scroll through channels without tuning. We should still have now/next information for all channels. If not, we have a bug (failure to store EIT-0 and EIT-1 for each channel, storing ONLY the now/next shows).

  12. Stay tuned to 19-1 for just over 6 more hours. Note that this test is similar to watching a movie or a couple of consecutive shows on one channel without changing channels. Data will become depleted due to expiration in roughly 3 to 6 hours. We give it 6 in case we started at a best case time.

  13. Pull up and scroll through program guide without tuning. We expect to see no program listings for any channel but 19-1, 19-2, and 19-3. If we see more, we have a feature: storage of EIT-2 and EIT-3 and we should also check to see if it stores more than 2 and 3.

  14. Unplug unit for 10 seconds (more if non-volatile), plug back in, and leave turned off for 5 minutes. When we turn on and look at program guide, we should have now/next data for all channels. If not, we have a bug (failure to scan after power failure).

Note time in both local time and UTC when doing tests at the start of the test and after each long delay. EIT blocks start at hours divisible by 3 in UTC, not local time. Thus the time you do the test dictates how much usable data is in EIT-0 and EIT-1.

These tests require some understanding, not just following a recipe because you have to adapt the tests based on what you learn along the way.

For some, it may be helpful to use UTC and draw a chart on a piece of graph paper with virtual stations, grouped by physical channel, across

the top and time in UTC down the side in 1 hour or half hour blocks.

Group each block of three hours (starting at UTC hours divisable by three) together and write down the EIT number. Draw heavy lines at physical channel boundaries and the 3 hour boundaries. Then, when you tune each station, you can put an X in the blocks for what data the converter appears to be able to access.

Major Inputs/Outputs

A lot of the variation is whether the units support S-video output, smart antenna input, and analog pass through, since these require some extra cost components. Most units are missing these and only one, the Apex DT250 which hasn't shipped yet (June 2008), has all three. TV passthru requires a relay or a notch filter and signal injector and may attenuate signal slightly. S-Video output requires a connector and maybe a driver but the chipsets probably have the signals.

Analog passthru is needed during the transition before the switchover as well as for stations that will not be switching over. Low power, Class A, and translator (repeater) stations, Canadian, and Mexican stations don't have to switch. There is even an attempt to exempt US full power stations near the mexican border since part of their audience isn't eligible for coupons. There are also many devices that may generate a NTSC signal that needs to be passed through. Security systems, VCRs, video games, whole house distribution of DVR or other content.

Passthru

All video components should have an antenna in and out connection with passthru. They should also have composite video and stereo audio (RCA jacks) input and output with passthru. Likewise for S-video. Other I/Os should also have passthrough. This allows you to daisychain units. VCRs, DVD recorders, and other recording devices, which have to have have these jacks anyway, normally have this capability. TV's which are often the end of the line, often do not. DVD players usually do not (get a DVD recorder instead). Game consoles usually do not.

Having more than one video input is also highly desireable. Having more than one output is sometimes useful as well.

Chipsets

Wikipedia lists the chips used for various functions, where known. The recent generation LG chipsets used in the Insignia/Zenith and many others have a good reputation for handling weak signals and multipath interference.

Remote Control Codes

Some of the CECB boxes use the same remote control codes as cable boxes. From tivocommunity we have a few. This means that TiVo's and possibly some smart VCRs, can control the box using an IR transmitter.

Channel Master CM-7000 – pioneer

Zenith/LG DTT900 – LG directv receiver (TIVO 10075-B)

RCA DTA800B – RCA directv receiver

Captions

On analog TV (NTSC) captions were encoded onto line 21 of the vertical blanking interval, part of the black bar that is normally off the edge of the screen, according to the EIA/CEA-608 standard. If you adjust the vertical hold control on a TV (that still has one), you can actually see the captions encoded as light and dark. A digital signal doesn't have a vertical blanking interval. On digital TV (ATSC), EIA-608 analog TV captions and EIA/CEA-708 digital captions are both merged into the digital bitstream. The converter box is required to take the EIA-608 captions and inject them into Line 21 so your VCR can record them and your TV can decode them. Most digital stations are required to transmit captions in both EIA-608 and EIA-708. EIA-708 allows more caption data to be sent and the content author can select more font sizes and colors than a TV (with its legacy decoder) may provide and the user can override those font settings. If you record the video on a VCR, you probably want the EIA-608 captions so you can decide whether or not to display them at viewing time. EIA-708 to EIA-608 caption translation is somewhat limited as 708 supports many features that 608 does not so some information (primarily presentation) is lost. All CECBs are required to pass thru the EIA-608 captions. They may optionally render the EIA-608 captions at the user's request. They may optionally display the 708 captions directly for a better quality display.

On a DVD player, there are two forms and you will see that some movies have one, some have the other, and some have both. One is digital captions (CC) that get encoded as EIA-608 and inserted onto Line 21 and are decoded in the TV. The other is a prerendered graphical overlay (subtitles) that has more flexibility in terms of fonts and positions and gimmicks but has lost its encoding as ASCII/UNICODE text. Since it has lost its abstract text encoding and become pixels, it is problematic to implement such features as text searching, automatic transcription, or driving a brail reader.

An article on captioning with block diagrams of how the encoding is handled at a TV station. wikipedia has more.

Some folks have [URL="http://screenfont.ca/fonts/today/708/"]scathing criticism[/URL] of tiresias, which they consider unsalvageable, and other fonts commonly used. Sure, tiresias doesn't look too bad if you are close to a good quality TV. But captioning places some incredible demands on a font. People with a wide range of visual and hearing impairments, dyslexics, plus non-disabled people and 2nd language people, have to read at high speed, while also paying attention to action, and for long periods of time and from way too far away, against a possibly transparent background neccessary to not obscure the action, a font that could be rendered on a sharp HDTV to a crappy interlaced analog TV with poor focus over an RF modulator connection, could be resampled with jitter on an analog LCD, rescaled on a high resolution display from a low resolution source,prone to halation, or anamorphicly projected. Captions may be further mutilated by VCR recording or DVD recording (with compression artifacts). Caption fonts, including tiresias, are typically derived from Print fonts, intended for non-luminous high resolution use and computer fonts intended for close viewing of a high resolution screen. Tiresias was developed in such a way that it is subject to the high prices ($17,400) of professional font foundaries while the people doing the work weren't getting paid for it (and it shows).

Captions are transcriptions of the dialog and sound effects for deaf users. Subtitles are dialog plus some on screen text for people who speak another language. You can have both and may sometimes need both; what if you are deaf and you speak a different language? Captions may also identify the speaker which is helpful since voice cues are missing and can be helpful for people with face blindness. Secondary audio channels are sometimes available in which an announcer, speaking very fast, describes the action on screen during pauses in the dialog. The majority of caption/subtitle users are not deaf or visually impaired. Most are non-native English speakers. Many other people use captions/subtitles as well.

If you watch 2 hours of TV five days a week, you will read about 4.4 million words a year. That is about the equivalent of about 59 novels. And unlike a book, you can't backup and reread – unless you have a DVR or are watching a DVD.

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Analog TV (NTSC)

An NTSC signal consists of:

All four are transmitted on the RF signal. L+R and L-R are decoded into left and right and brought out to RCA jacks, on devices that have A/V outputs. SAP is lost unless the originating devices is told to decode SAP, in which case the left and right signals and the other SAP channel is lost

US Digital TV signal (ATSC, 8VSB)

This is a rough approximation of a digital TV transmission protocol hierarchy. Since ATSC doesn't seem to provide a good overview document, I have had to make some guesses based on skimming various standards documents. Virtual channels may not be broken down into separate substreams but instead all video and audio streams might be immediate children of the main transport stream with only the control tables to tell a receiver which streams correspond. Thus, there are a number of places where the logical hierarchy may be flattened in the protocol hierarchy or things may be otherwise positioned incorrectly. ATSC looks suspiciously like it is not well layered.

Also contains some data about captions.

Datacasting services may include news, weather, traffic, stock market, gaming, shopping, or educational material. Some are interactive and may require an alternate channel to send data back.

Competing standards to ATSC for digital television include DVB-T (Used in Europe ), DVB-S (used by Dish Network, globecast, and BellExpressVu) satellite broadcasts), DVB-C (cable) and QAM64/QAM256 used by cable systems, DirecTV's non-standard proprietary system, and others. QAM cable systems in the US substitute QAM for 8VSB but still transmit ATSC formatted data on top of that, though for many channels it is encrypted.

Extra cost features

This is a rough guess of the cost of added hardware features. It is based loosely on qty 1 prices for components at a high priced full service US distributor, though I didn't look up every part. Allowances were made for support components. It includes Actual cost of adding a feature exceeds component cost; I.E. There is some markup for board space used, solder, assembly costs, and proportional increase in profit. However, in mass production quantities, component cost would be less than half the qty 1 cost.

Zero Marginal Cost Features

These are the features that add nothing to the marginal hardware cost of the unit. Indeed, they add nothing to the marginal cost at all since the cost is the same whether you sell 1 or a million units and they add only a small amount to the amortized development costs. These are basically software. If you spend $25,000 extra on software and sell 100,000 units (if you expect to sell fewer, you probably wouldn't bother competing for a mass market commodity item like this) that costs $0.25 per unit. If you sell a million units, it is only $0.025 per unit. It is possible to make the program larger than the amount of code memory supported by the hardware, though this is less likely if you avoid wasteful programming practices. In that case, upgrading the memory chip could add a couple bucks to the cost of the unit.

Pretty much everything legal under the coupon program not listed under extra cost features falls into this category.

Channel Selection

You might think channel selection would be a simple issue but guess again. A TV station in my area, “Channel 29”, for example, broadcasts an analog signal on channel 29 and a digital signal carrying logical channels 29.1, 29.2, and 29.3 on physical channel 32. After the transition, it might stay on 32 or move to 29 or in some rare cases move to a different frequency entirely to minimize interference. As part of the setup process, a CECB will scan all channels to find those that are in use and have a strong enough signal and will detect what logical channel numbers are in use. However, a user may want a distant station that carries content not duplicated locally even if the signal is not strong enough to be received clearly at all times. And not all channels may be broadcasting at the time you run the autoscan and your antenna might not be pointed in the right direction to pick up a particular channel at that time. A box may also reject signals it considers too weak to reliably receive consistently. All boxes should thus let you manually add channels that were not picked up by the autoscan; some do not. All boxes should also have the ability to perform additional autoscans without erasing the old channels from the list; some do not. All boxes should also let you manually enter a channel that isn't on the list of channels detected by autoscan or on the smaller list of channels the user has selected. In order to protect a TV stations branding and avoid confusing viewers, the logical digital channels are still numbered 29.x rather than 32.x. Unfortunately, this creates more confusion when a user must manually enter a channel that wasn't picked up on the autoscan. If you want to tune to this station and it wasn't autoscanned, what do you enter? “29”, 29.1”, or 32? Since it didn't read the metadata for this channel during autoscan, entering 29 or 29.1 isn't going to work since the box has no idea what frequency is being used. Some boxes will let you enter “32” and if that doesn't correspond to a known logical channel it will instead try tuning to physical channel 32. Other boxes may not be that smart. Things would get even more confusing, though, in an area where there was also a logical channel 32, in which case that style of user interace would not let you tune to physical channel 32. This isn't likely pre-transition but could happen post-transition if a new channel takes over a vacated channel; this is something that the new channel or the FCC may try to avoid but in some cases it might be necessary and reportedly there will be cases such as this.

Many units have channel up/down buttons on the front panel, as well as the remote, but some do not. These will allow limited use of the device when you have misplaced the remote, the remote is broken or has dead batteries, or when you are located next to the equipment and not in your normal viewing location. Most boxes that have power and channel buttons don't have menu and select buttons, and even some that did may not have menu options corresponding to all of the functions on the remote. Thus, all or almost all, devices will be only partially functional at best with a dead remote. If there is even a single box on the market that handles this properly, I am not aware of it.

Cable/Satellite users

Cable/satellite users don't need converter boxes (at least until 2012), with several notable exceptions:

It should also be noted that scanners, emergency radios, ham radios, etc. that were previously able to pick up the audio portion of TV broadcasts will no longer be able to do so.

Unit Specific Notes

Apex DT250

The APEX DT250 has all three of the scarce I/O features (S-video, analog pass through, and smart antenna), 3 day program guide, a 23 page manual, and a cheap price. On the downside, APEX is not known for high quality construction (though that is hardly unusual these days). APEX does offer good bang for the buck, at least in the short term. I am still a bit peeved that my APEX TV/DVD player developed two electrical problems (loss of vertical scan and refusal to power on) and one mechanical one (tray load) in 4 years and became too much trouble to fix even though I bought the service manual.

I am also not sure from the manual that the 3 day program guide is presented in more than one channel at a time. And the box appears to be missing a manual channel add or add only autoscan.

Echostar/Dish network DTVPal TR-40

The TR-40 has analog passthrough, a “full” program guide, a US built microtune tuner module, and it is apparently the only one with a recording timer. And I think it was the first one announced with passthru. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of info on it, there are no front panel buttons, it uses an external power supply, it has an oddly shaped enclosure, and it hits the market too late for people who registered in 1Q2008. A recoding timer is clunky, because you have to program two devices to setup a recording, but it is better than the alternative. Reportedly uses TV Guides EPG rather than just what you get via PSIP but apparently that isn't true. Other aspects of the DTVpal seem not to be living up to expectations, now that the unit is out. Like the timer not working properly.

Magnavox TB100MW9/Philco TB100HH9, Sylvania TB100MG9

This was the first unit I actually saw in the store. Was immediately put off by the lack of channel change buttons.

Hdtvexpert referred to these units as “troublesome” and <a href=”http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=986114”>avsforum</a> starts with a good review of the receive sensitivity but one poster drove 35 miles to walmart to get one, got one that was DOA, took it back and got another DOA. Other posts about tuner sensitivity weren't as charitable. The magnavox unit is made by Funai; I have one of their DVD recorders and it has worked fairly well. The electronic program guide only shows one show at a time, not a grid. User manual: http://www.funai-corp.com/6pdf/om/TB100MW9.pdf Someone suggested the philco tb100hh9 looks the same as the magnavox, except a different color. Some reported that the unit was running at 110F but drilling some ventilation holes dropped it to 87F. You can't manually add channels without rerunning a channel scan. In april someone said all the Magnavoxes had been pulled from walmart shelves; and indeed they were missing at my local store but they turned up at Sam's club. Another report said that where there are loLts of channels, the tuner fails. Signal meter is not available until after the station decodes – makes it hard to adjust your antenna. The lack of manual channel add is a big problem. If you run your scan when a station is off the air, subject to interference, or you antenna rotor is pointed the wrong way, you have a problem. On avsforum, “The Magnavox is not held in much favor.”

The MW9 does not have analog passthru. The HH9 and MG9 do but it is very cumbersome to use. You go into the setup menu and change from CH3 or CH4 to RF THROUGH to enable and to disable you hold down the setup button on remote for 3 seconds. If your TV has composite A/V inputs, one workaround is to leave the RF in passthru mode and switch the TV from Antenna to AV input; of course that is about the same as using an external splitter on a box that has no passthru (though you lose a little bit of signal that way. Passthru only works when unit is on. Rumor has it that analog RF passthru can be enabled by adding a jumper.

The remote control is unpopular. Small buttons, poor layout, can't be programmed to even control TV power.


Zenith DTT901/LG Insignia NS-DXA1-APT

This is the DTT900 upgraded with analog passthru by substituting a TDVG-H151F tuner module. Also fixes some other DTT901 bugs.

LG Insignia/Zenith DTT900

Like other boxes available in big box retailers, these are bare bones units. Except for an audio problem (see below), these units tend to have a fairly good implementation of the features they do provide..

While these boxes have the same hardware, there may be differences in the firmware. Insignia is LG's premium brand and Zenith their low end brand. One report said the insignia has a better signal strength meter but another report, substantiated with pictures showed they were the same. Perhaps this was missing from early firmware. Lets you do a fresh channel scan, scan for new channels without erasing old, and manually add channels. If the audio volume is weak (a common issue with CECBs), it helps, strangely, to tell the box using the menus that you are using the RF modulator, not the A/V out.

Units manufactured before 2008-04 may have an audio problem when decoding dolby 5.1 broadcasts that shows up on some TVs and causes a chirping in the left channel. Other boxes using the LG chips seem to have the same problem. Someone on avsforum wrote: “I spoke to Zenith/LG representatives at NAB 2008 and the culprit is an EQ setting in the audio processor. This has been upgraded recently (as has the processing chip). Apparently the problem occurs with a down mix of a Dolby Digital 5.1 surround audio track to stereo, and is not as common when watching programs with native stereo soundtracks.”

FCC documents with test reports and internal photos here

As you can see from one of the video reviews, the now/next program guide only shows two programs on one channel at a time. You can scroll through channels (but not time) using the arrow keys, but it may tell you it has no program guide info and you have to tune to that channel to get it. As you are scolling channels, you can still hear your program and see parts off it.

RJTech RJ-900ATSC, Shenzhen MTC/AMTC/Alpha Digital AT-2016, Tivax STB-T9, Mustek MAT-K50

This one has been showing up on ebay for $40 + $15 postage, no coupons. It is rumored to be a mustek box. There is also a RJ1000ATSC which apparently is not coupon eligible but has QAM, coax digital audio, and RGB/component as well as passthru and s-video (but no smart antenna) and firmware update. not available as of 2008-06. This box was registered with the FCC by Shenzhen MTC and is also known as the Alpha Digital AT2016, AMTC AT2016, and appears to be the same as the Tivax STB-T9. Also may be same as Mustek MAT-K50. FCC ID UVD20071228001 (includes schematic, internal and external pictures). This box has an RS-232 connector for software upgrades, described in one of the manuals as for factory use only. The Tuner/RF modulator used in these models shows an optional analog pass through on the block diagram, but that doesn't appear to be the version used on these boxes. The Shenzhen MTC FCC registration shows a front panel with the RJTECH part number on it and the back panel picture shows the AT-2016 part number. Note that Shenzhen is a city in China, and appears in many company names. The Tivax and Mustek were judged to be likely relabeled units since the position of the front panel controls, the back panel, and the remote control matched. The front panel bezel looks different across different models. MTC represented to the FCC that AMTC AT-2016, Mustek MAT-K50 DTA1010, RJ-900ATSC, RJ-1000ATSC, STB-T8, STB-T9, and STB-T10 are “identical in the hardware aspect”. However, that is not likely true for the RJ-1000ATSC since it has a number of connectors for which there are no positions on the PCB. There may be cosmetic and firmware differences. On the Tivax, people have been able to get a monitor prompt on the RS-232 port. One of the commands is “satune” which probably lets you set the channel and zir which simulates pressing buttons on the remote control. The memorex MVCB100 may be a similar unit but with passthru. The Tivax has heat sink, ventilation holes, and metal case. The tivax is reported to have a remote control with most functions directly accessible from dedicated remote buttons, pretty good reception, and retains channel setting after a power loss. One user reported as much as 11-1/2 hours of EPG so it is probably remembering EIT-0 through EIT3; it looks like a now/next interface but you can scroll using the arrow keys. It is reported to have some zoom and overscan issues and not great multipath rejection. No easyadd or manual channel add, though if you enter the physical channel number it will pick up the logical channels there and you can then see them in the add/remove channels list.). Has a dash button for subchannel entry. Caption fonts are poor and don't survive interlacing well.

RCA DTA800

This one is confusing because there are three different models with different letter suffixes but the letter suffixes are often omitted. The A model uses a Zoran chipset and the B and B1 models use a broadcom chipset. The RCA has a [Hidden Menu] but it doesn't apparently do much.

Similar boxes

This information comes from the avsforum thread where Malouff posted the screendumps of EPG. This is probably indication that the boxes are running the same basic firmware (and probably the same processor chip), but doesn't necessarily imply hardware equivalence:



Related Products

Computer TV Tuners

If you have a fast enough computer, you can purchase a digital tuner for the computer for around the price of a converter box (without coupon) and get EDTV or HDTV resolution display on your computer, video recording, and automatic channel selection. There are also devices that let you use your computer monitor as a TV (whether or not the computer is powered up or connected) but not record; so far, these seem to be analog TV only. The latter devices are also usually crippled by not having composite or better inputs.

HDTV Tuners

These standalone tuners are intended for use with HDTV monitors. Samsung DTV-H260F, Samsung SIR-T150, Sylvania 6900DTE, Samsung SIR-T451, Humax HFA100, etc. Note that while they may offer much better connectivity, older units using old chips may not pick up weak stations as well as the CECBs. Some more are listed on avsforum .



HD Satellite receivers with digital terrestrial tuning

Some DirecTV HD satellite tuners are known to work as over-the-air digital tuners without subscribing to satellite service. P

Low end digital TVs

If your analog TV is nearing the end of its useful life for reasons that have little to do with broadcast formats but you aren't ready to shell out for HDTV, then one of the low end digital TVs might be a candidate.

Cable/Satellite

If you were already leaning towards getting cable or satellite, then there may not be much point in getting converter boxes.

DVD, VHS, or combo recorders

Some video recorders are shipping with ATSC tuners. If you don't need to record and watch TV simultaneously, you may be able to use these to convert your signal. Some of these are already cheaper than some standalone HDTV tuners. Magnavox makes an H2080MW8 80GB hard drive/DVD recorder with digital tuner that sells for $200 at walmart. Bear in mind that they may record only at SD resolution and for that matter only convert SD resolution but may have component and HDMI outputs. If you have limited space for A/V components near your TV, a DVD-R/VHS combo with ATSC tuner might do the trick.

Video Interfaces

These are listed in approximately in order from lowest quality to highest.

Coupon eligible boxes limit you to the bottom two or three rungs of the ladder. DVD quality pictures are degraded by anything less than component video.

Modulation Schemes

8VSB is the modulation scheme used in US digital over the air terrestrial TV and is required to be supported. QAM is used for unencrypted cable, such as basic digital cable so if you have or switch to basic digital cable you can't use it without a set top box from the cable company. Most CECB boxes probably use chips that support QAM but few if any will let you use it. It isn't clear that it is legal to support it. Apparently it isn't. The Microprose MPI-500 might be an exception since it is rumored that it mentioned QAM in the spec sheet, though I don't see that any more. Until a station stops broadcasting an analog signal, must carry rules don't require the digital version on cable to be carried or unencrypted so some some of the more disreputable cable companies, such as Comcast, are reported to encrypt those channels. None of the devices, as far as I know, support NTSC tuning. Sound like a dumb think to include in an ATSC to NTSC device? Well, a lot of the ATSC tuner chips have NTSC capability, you lose less signal than with passthru, and things operate a lot smoother if you have to tune both NTSC and ATSC signals and there will still be some low power analog stations around after the switchover. Non-coupon versions of the boxes may emerge later that include the trivial amount of software needed to enable QAM and NTSC tuning.

Block Diagram

DTV converters are complicated devices. Below is a representative diagram. By the time the converter is done with its job, the signal has been processed in many ways. Using the composite outputs on the converter instead of the RF output, avoids a few processing stages in the converter and the next piece of equipment down the line. The two digital stages that affect the quality are the Resolution_Down_Converter and the Frame_Rate_Converter.

This diagram automatically generated from a description of the interrelationships using graphviz.



Questions

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Hookup Diagrams

These diagrams are intended to help you think about your cabling requirements before purchasing a CECB. If you have already used up all your inputs, a CECB will make things worse by having line outputs but no line inputs.

In these diagrams “RF” connections go from “Antenna Out” on the first device to “Antenna in” on the second device. “Composite”, “Left”, and “Right” connections go from “Line Out” on the first device to “Line In” or “Line 1 In” on the second device. When looking at these diagrams, think about which devices must be powered up to use various operating modes. Usually, a relay will pass through the “RF” signals when powered down but a device must be powered up, and the device set appropriately, to pass through the “Composite”, “Left”, and “Right” connections.

Below is a simple hookup diagram for a TV that only has an antenna input.

[Hookup Diagram 1]

Below is a hookup diagram for a TV that has an antenna input and composite input.

[Hookup Diagram 2]

Below is a hookup diagram for a DTV converter that lacks analog pass through.

[Hookup Diagram 3]

Below is a hookup diagram for a DTV converter and DVD player. Requires that the TV have RF and Composite inputs. Digital TV quality is reduced by only using the RF connection; if your TV has two sets of composite inputs, you can use those.

[Hookup Diagram 4]

Below is a hookup of a VCR and DVD player to a TV with RF and composite inputs. Digital TV is degraded by using RF connection (use second composite line input if you have it).. Cannot dub from DVD to VCR. Simultaneous TV watching and recording of a separate program is not possible. Asumes TV and VCR have a single composite Line input each.

[Hookup Diagram 5]

Below is a hookup diagram with a DVD player and VCR, set up for dubbing (though copy protected tapes can't be copied). Assumes TV has one set of composite line inputs and VCR has two.

[Hookup Diagram 6]

Below is a hookup of a VCR and DVD player.

[Hookup Diagram 7]

Below is a hookup diagram with a VCR and DVD recorder. It assumes that you will be dubbing from VCR to DVD more often than the reverse, though the RF cables are connected backwards relative to the composite cables so you can dub from DVD to VCR at reduced quality. Copy protection may limit duplication of commercial videos. Simultaneous watching and recording of separate programs is not possible since there is only one DTV Converter.

[Hookup Diagram 8]

Below is a configuration that allows simultaneously watching and recording two separate programs. It allows dubbing from VCR to DVD, with a video stabilizer to clean up signals from deteriorating tapes. Dubbing from DVD to VHS is possible at reduced quality via tha backwards RF connection; copy protection may interfere. Signal quality while watching live DTV is degraded some by using an RF instead of a composite connection; if your TV has a second set of line inputs, use it.

[Hookup Diagram 9]

Things are fairly complicated, and I still haven't thrown in a TiVo, game console, IPTV or media player appliance, or a satellite receiver with local channels not available via satellite and thus requiring over the air DTV reception via an antenna.

Here is an example of how a professional might hook up equipment using a matrix switch that allows any input to be connected to any output, using only Composite connections. "Composite/Left/Right" cables have been abreviated "C/L/R". Of course, they might well connect up Component signals or HDMI digital signals as well. They wouldn't be likely to use this configuation today except as an retrofit to an old professional setup. 8X8 Matrix switches are expensive, starting at $500 and going way up for an 8x8 switch. Thus, it is cheaper to do the switching digitally inside a computer that can provide more functionality, as well. A mix of analog (composite/component) signals and digital (HDMI) signals complicates the switch matrix. This example shows how professionals have traditionally handled the interconnections so that you can dub from any format to any format. A less expensive, smaller matrix switch may be needed for some retrofits.

[Hookup Diagram 10]

And below is how a professional might hook things up today. One box works as a Digital Video Recorder, DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray recorder and player, CD player, media player, internet TV player, video games, web browser, and general purpose computer. A VCR is hooked up for dubbing materials from that obsolete format. Full 6 channel surround sound. Note the trend towards fewer boxes, thwarted somewhat by satellite/cable providers who fail to provide standard signals. Since TV tuners are replaceable modules, no DTV converters are used. This system allows simultaneous viewing or recording of 4 separate programs, 2 from over the air and two from satellite/cable. Recorded programs are saved on the hard drive and can be archived to DVD, HD-DVD, or Blu-ray. This system would provide full HDTV viewing when a suitable monitor was used. If the capability to dub onto VHS is still needed, video and audio outputs could be connected to the VCR as well. A USB or traditional turntable and cassette deck can be connected to convert old audio recordings to modern formats. MythTV is often used as the software on such a system. Copy protected outputs from cable/satellite boxes and HD-DVD/Blu-ray, however, are a serious problem.

[Hookup Diagram 11]

Environmental Impact

The government does not require that devices be RoHS (reduction of hazardous substances) or lead-free compliant. However, some manufacturers may provide RoHS/lead free compliant devices because they are manufactured in a country that has regulations requiring it or they intend to sell the device, or variant models, in jurisdictions that require compliance, or because they have already tooled up for RoHS because they normally sell to such markets. RoHS/lead-free compliance is not necessarily a good thing.

The environmental impact of an electronic device includes:

To the extent that DTV converters preserve the useful life of existing TVs, they may have a positive environmental impact. However, contributing to the proliferation of separate A/V components is a negative impact compared to DTV tuners integrated into other products. In other words, if you were allowed to purchase, for example, a DVD recorder with built in DTV converter functionality, the environmental impact would be lower than if you purchase a DTV converter and a DVD recorder. Thus, the narrowly limited coupons may entice you to make a poor environmental choice.

Standby/On mode power

An article in Home Energy Magazine and an LBL report give the power consumption of video appliances (1999 figures).. TV power consumption varies with size, among other factors, but a typical 19-20” TV consumes 68Watts when on and 5.1 watts in standby (a typical energy star TV uses 1.7W in standby). A typical digital cable box is 23 watts whether on or “off”, about twice the consumption for an analog cable box. A typical satellite TV box, uses 17W active and 16W standby.. 95% of the VCR's power consumption occurs when it isn't playing or recording, in other words, most of the power consumption occurs when it is in standby or switched on to permit signal passthrough. Even a typical energy star VCR uses 3W in standby out of 4W allowed and a non-energy star model twice that. DVD players use 2 to 7W when “off”. Digital TVs typically consume twice as much power, on or off, as their analog counterparts (though the typical digital TV at that time was probably larger and improvements in IC designs may have improved things since then). Cable and satellite boxes are expected to be on so they can download program listings, software updates, etc. Thus, the devices that most need to be switched off may not be able to be.

Because of the embodied energy, replacing an older unit with a newer energy efficient model may not be an improvement. Thus, you should consider the energy consumption of new devices and look for ways to minimize the power consumption of existing devices. Adding a seperate power strip to turn off devices rather than leaving them in standby may help though some devices will lose time or settings when turned off completely. Also VCRs and DVD recorders that need to wake up automatically to do unattended recording can't do so when power is removed. If you use electric heat (excluding heat pumps), power consumption in the winter may be a moot point as it may simply reduce the on time of the electric heaters.

Why Consumers aren't upgrading to HDTV

Copy Protection

Media companies have a long track record of trying to suppress or cripple new technologies on the grounds that it will hurt them; in fact, they usually profit from the the very technologies they tried to suppress. They tried to suppress the VCR, yet they now make more money from home video sales than they do from theatrical screenings. They tried to suppress radio broadcasts of music; now they pay bribes to radio stations to play their music. Today, they impose copy protection on video cassettes, DVDs, HD-DVD, and Blu-ray formats as well as DVI,HDMI, and firewire to maintain their psychopathic price gouging. They gouge consumers and then have the nerve to call consumers criminals when they don't bend over. They have gotten corrupt politicians to pass laws infringing on consumers fair use rights. Consumers would, ordinarily, prefer to own originals. Yet, with copy protection, they have created the peculiar situation where a copy is more valuable than a defective (copy protected) originals. If you can't make fair use copies to take with you when you travel, for use in the car, or for use by kids (who tend to destroy things) and have trouble using free software to play the materials, then what is the incentive to buy? Furthermore, many consumers have ethical problems with supporting criminal media corporations, even if they want to support the artists. At $6 without copy protection, DVDs will practically jump of the shelves, at $30 with copy protection, they sit there looking lonely. And they have been sitting there looking lonely – the industry is upset about the sales slump. But instead of accepting that they themselves are the problem, they are attacking consumers. There is a reason that Wal*mart accounts for 40-45% of DVD sales – because even a few dollars makes a big difference in sales volume. You can make more money selling 10 million copies at $10 than you can selling 1 million copies at $20. They tried to impose this on digital TV transmissions, via the broadcast flag but were shot down, but they continue to try to infringe on your rights by reintroducing the broadcast flag. Join the EFF (it is free) to protect your rights from further infringement. I owned a DVD player for a couple years before the CSS copy protection was broken on DVDs, during which time I purchased a total of about 3 DVDs. After that, I bought hundreds. Then they passed the DMCA.. So, they lost a couple hundred sales due to copy protection, from me alone. And I am not going to be buying Blu-ray or HD-DVD disks either, because of the copy protection. If I can't play it on my PC using my choice of software, I am not buying it. I rent more than I buy, these days. They are particularly hard on digital formats under the false premise that digital copies are perfect copies. They usually aren't. When copying a double layer DVD, do you think people pay $2 for a double layer disk? No, typically they compress the video (losing quality) to fit it onto a $0.25 disk. And with Blu-ray and HD-DVD, the cost of blank media is even higher. Are off the air recordings perfect copies? No. Even if you have prefect reception, the content is censored before broadcast, there are often commercial breaks, and there are often station ID bugs in the corner of the image. Computer software used to be copy protected; that went the way of the dodo bird. They even figured out how to make money by encouraging copying. It is technologically impossible to prevent hard core pirates from copying stuff; instead, companies only hurt their paying customers.

Just a few of the ways copy protection has personally affected me:

If you haven't been burned by copy protection yet, or just didn't realize it, you will be.

FCC filings



Someone on avsforum found the FCC filings on a number of units and I added some. These are very hard to find unless you know the FCC ID number. They are also hard to find when the FCC site goes down. FCC ID numbers are frequently printed on the outside of the enclosure; if you have one send it in. These links point to manuals, inside and outside photos, compliance test reports, etc. FCC search – these were found under equipment class HID-Part 15 TV Interface Device

Chip Info

SoC or demodulator/decoder

RF Tuner/Modulator

Other

Hacking

There is a thread on avsforum about hacking the boxes.

Smart Antenna

Smart antennas are mostly vaporware, at this point. There are very few smart antennas. Channel master 3000A Smartenna isn't one. DX Antenna DTA-5000 is one - though it is only rated for green zone?

Technical info:

Smart antenna connections comply with CEA-909-2002 or later. Pulses are sent at 8Khz (125us). A logic 0 is encoded as a pulse that is high for 41.7us and a logic low is encoded as a pulse that is high for 83.3usec. Timing should be within 5%. A special wide pulse (375uS out of 500uS) is used for power up and reset and preceeds the start bit. signals are 5V ( <1V is low and >2V is high. This is TTL/CMOS compatible but the recommend drive is an open collector NPN transistor with 1K ohm pullup (so the antenna can send signals back) and the antenna has a 2200 ohm load to ground. The TV may optionally sense the load resistor to determine if a smart antenna is connected. Connector is a 6 pin modular plug with an offset tab. Pin 5 is data, pin 2 is 12VDC (+/-10%, 150mA, 200mV max ripple, short circuit protected) from the TV to the antenna, and the others are ground.

Here is a sample bit stream sending: 10101010101010. Each dash or underscore represents one third of a bit time (41.7us):

_____________---------___--_--_-__--_-__--_-__--_-__--_-__--_-__--_-____________________
Idle         Reset       sb 1  0  1  0  1  0  1  0  1  0  1  0  1  0  Idle 

Mode A is pretty simple. Reset pulse, Start bit (1), 2 bits for antenna selection or coarse direction, 2 bits for fine direction, 1 for polarization, 2 for preamp gain, and 7 bits for the RF channel number, then the line sits low at 0V for at least 10ms until the next transmission. The master may exhaustively try all 128 combinations of the first 7 bits during setup (auto mode) to find which works best for a particular station and remember that or may let the user control the bits (manual mode).

Mode B is more complicated and allows the antenna to send back a 10 bit status word and the initial handshake involves sending a channel number of 0 and waiting for a reply with the antennas program number. If it receives a reply and understands it, it sends a word with channel number 1. If it doesn't, it sends a channel number of 0. If the handshake fails, both ends revert to mode A.

ANSI CEA-909A-2007 defines a way to send these signals over the same coax that carries the video.

A backwards wired cable (straight thru vs crossover) is likely to cause damage and may damage more than the smart antenna interface as 12V can be applied through protection diodes to the 5V supply.

There seems to be no provision for allowing more than one TV to share a smart antenna with a single cable. It is possible for a single smart antenna to have multiple antenna connections and one smart interface for each. Which direction, if any, a smart antenna points and what the gain is if it doesn't get a smart antenna signal is anyones guess; so they may not be usable in a pinch with non CEA-909 TVs.

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